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Lately, my problems are nothing but the fact that I have to hide myself, pretending to be someone i'm not, having to convince my family one day i'll marry and be "successful," and friend issues.
"Nothing but"?

I'm glad you see it that way, and no longer want "to break free from the hell on earth" now that you have dealt with the religious issue.

Still, your problems seem to be running river deep, mountain high.

I just read an article on research showing that when men ruminate about personal problems with others they feel better, but women feel more depressed than before after doing so... what a vicious circle!

Finding friends will no doubt help you feel better.

Good luck!

KF
 
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It's as the title says. Currently eighteen and attending high school. I am in desperate need for help as this is like my "last chance" to finally define my sexual orientation and break free from the hell on earth.

Background: I have always been very spiritual and despite what people have said, I still believe in God. I don't know if I am a "Christian," but that will be for God to decide. However, the main thing I have trouble in life, at the moment, is the contradictions my life has with the confusing Bible. T_T it's really hurting me as it is a part of who I am...

I am also half Korean and Chinese. I never really had a father; no never actually. And mother was always working. So no one knew the "secret life" I lived at home alone during these past few years. In Asian cultures, it is supposedly common for men to be masculine; macho...blah blah/etc. except some exceptions -_-. So during these five years, I have been living a lie; hiding behind a mask; yaddah yaddah yaddah...same story as everyone else right?

Problem: Anyways, how to come about coming out?

For the past five years, I have been into gay pornography, and no matter how I tried to resist at times; by watching "straight" pron/etc...I couldn't reject who I am. In "humiliation," I tried to convince myself I was Bisexual, and I did, but only for a short time. The reason for this? Being Gay was blasphemous in the Bible>Sodom&Gommorah>Consequences;Leviticus 18/20...;"Man was created in the image of God"?...So many overwhelming concepts, as well as contradicting ideas; ie: Jesus died for our sins. So isn't blashpemy(lust, gay sexual acts, etc.)=sin...which...=sin? meaning sin is still sin? Sometimes I have times where I question the Bible...Especially since anyone could have messed around with it to make laws according to what they wanted...=/ So confused. T_T If anyone has something to say to this please reply. Well, if it's going to be something like "you're stupid"...etc...then keep it to yourself please. Thanks.

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Posts: 17 | Location (city or country): Montreal, Quebec,Canada | Registered:: 06 August 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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religion is used to help people and was created by men - realize there is no mention of women aka bias. Christianity was created by the "white men" and at that time it was a white man's world, except Asia... which is why Jesus is White & Male =/ Why isn't Jesus or even God Asian or of African descent - where human beings originated from - or even a Women? Why is it that women have no prominence and they are always being blamed in many stories. My point is that religion is made up and whether or not there is a god.. well that is everyone's own choice to believe if he exist or not.

If there is a god i am sure he respects and love bisexuals, transexuals, heterosexuals and homosexuals like you and me Mr. Wong =) Homosexuality is not a crime and does not harm society, unlike pedophiles, racists and murderers.
 
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What JayChow says is Christianity amounts to the trafficking of a means to an end...

I think Christianity (or other religions) would be more appealing without the Almighty as its centerpiece. Thought processes can be hi-jacked by the belief in a superior being. Listening to the humble conscience leaves less room for unwarranted agenda.
 
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Sully-Prudhomme, a French poet and critic, mostly forgotten were it not for the fact that he was the first recipient of the Nobel Prize for literature in 1901, wrote something that stuck in my memory:
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En mon âme se livre un combat sans vainqueur,
Entre la foi sans preuve et la raison sans charme.

In my soul rages a battle without a victor
Between faith without proof and reason without charm.
Our sexuality and its demands are constantly exacerbating both sides...

KF
 
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Haha thanks guys.

Well, the problem now is that it's a problem...but it's not something you can fix. Just adjust to.

1.) Christianity/Religion
It's engraved into my head. Only way to "fix" this is to make loopholes, theories, and other means to adjust to this problem. I know if i'm fixated on the whole i'm going to hell if I breathe/move...then there's no point of my existence. I've come to a realization that if i'm a mistake, then God made a mistake. He's perfect. Mistakes are not possible.

2.) Korean-Chinese/Ethnical background versus culture
This plays an important role with who I am. Being raised Korean, I will follow up on Korean culture. In short, gay doesn't exist in Korean. You're basically psychologically ill if you're "gay" or "homosexual." That's in short of what the Korean community thinks. But after coming out to the people that DO matter, family & friends, i'm satisfied to some point. However, there are those friends and family members whom have friends in which I must pretend to live a lie again in order to not embarrass them? etc. It's whatevers. But sometimes, it does get at me..."why can't I just be who I really am in this world without worrying!?"

3.) Coming out/Societal Beliefs & how the world see me
I've already accomplished this. However, I came to realize I don't have to be who I'm not. For few months after starting this whole process of slowly revealing to family and friends, I was pretending to be your typical flamboyant homosexual. I'm not one of those. And in honesty, they turn me off. Sorry. Just an opinion. That is, sure we can say/do stuff that's like typical stereotypical flamboyant homosexual stuff, but not 24/7. Again, i'm living yet again another lie to "fit in" with the LGBT community. I don't lie though, I feel more comfortable around the LGBT community. But I'd rather be myself. I like to act more masculine than feminine. But enough of this babbling.


That about sums it up. Smile Thanks.


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I remember when I was first dealing with all this crap I fell into the same trap - thinking I had to suddenly "be gay." I started going to West Hollywood, believing I was going to fit right in to "the community." Ha. First off, there is no one monolithic gay community. Even those silly initials, LGBT, are an admission to that fact. People are just too diverse to be lumped together like that. Do heteros consider themselves fit to be pigeonholed into "the straight community"?

Being gay is just one part of a person. In my case, it has so little to do with who I am as an individual, especially compared to other facets of my personality (such as it is). It would be more accurate to say I belong to the obnoxious whiner community, or maybe the overly-intellectualizing everything until it hurts community.

I mean, seriously, what IS this LGBT community, anyway? And WHERE is it? I live in Pasadena, which is pretty conservative, yet on my street alone there are three other gay couples. So is this a "gay community"?

Sorry. Rambling as usual.

Keep on, Mr. Wong, keep on.

--sonof...
 
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Sorry. Rambling as usual.
Sonofgrecodan's rambling makes my day most of the time. Ramble on!
 
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I remember when I was first dealing with all this crap I fell into the same trap - thinking I had to suddenly "be gay." I started going to West Hollywood, believing I was going to fit right in to "the community." Ha. First off, there is no one monolithic gay community. Even those silly initials, LGBT, are an admission to that fact. People are just too diverse to be lumped together like that. Do heteros consider themselves fit to be pigeonholed into "the straight community"?

Being gay is just one part of a person. In my case, it has so little to do with who I am as an individual, especially compared to other facets of my personality (such as it is). It would be more accurate to say I belong to the obnoxious whiner community, or maybe the overly-intellectualizing everything until it hurts community.

I mean, seriously, what IS this LGBT community, anyway? And WHERE is it? I live in Pasadena, which is pretty conservative, yet on my street alone there are three other gay couples. So is this a "gay community"?

Sorry. Rambling as usual.

Keep on, Mr. Wong, keep on.

--sonof...


Yeah, I completely understand & agree. Smile +1


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Love I was like you. Until I fund the key of living. I have seen many hard things and I know that's called life. I know the culture beyond u, and I was in the same position as you too. I am Indonesian and we have the same eastern culture and sight.

here the key I want to share with you :
1st, u must give urself a time to consider all about u and urlife, ask your heart and your life which life do u want to pass by. plz to be honest to urself. find the answer as soon as possible and as honest as u r.

2nd, accept your condition as the way u are. you will be free from any force that bind your body, soul and mind. and the freedom is the power for you to face life.

3rd, do ur life as well as possible. take ur faith into ur heart focus on your life goal and dream. ur believe system will guide u to the goal of life u wanna reach out. It seem you got the power to hit the rock in front of u. And dont afraid be a gay. the matters is not u but other that has negative thinking of gay. u can prove to them that u can be such a good gay with good life. gay marriage is know one of the way to show that ur life still exist and belong to them.
dont be afraid to religion perspective, it is not the matter either. it is not ur fault if u choose ur life be gay. just do the rite life and ignore what people said because u do know ur own life, and I am sure God will understand you bout the life that u have choosed.
 
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