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I consider JguyUSguy to be my saviour when I became briefly -but seriously- suicidal after the death of my wife of thirty years.
I came to Japan at twenty-three, got married then, but thereafter -all too naturally- developed a strong attraction toward Jguys. Who wouldn't? It was hard at first, but I created my own philosophy (i.e. search for wisdom), a compromise between love and promiscuity as described on the thread dedicated to that issue. After the heart attack of my beloved partner, JguyUSguy helped me more than I can ever say. That is why I never hesitated to become a "Life Member". As you all well know, behind JguyJguy are two fine men. I have had the privilege of meeting both on more than one occasion. What I would like to ask you, my friends, and I have many now after three years on the site, is -simply- what is JguyUSguy for you? For your life? What has it brought you? In what way did/does it help you?... The most? Why do you feel grateful for its existence? Or not? He will hate me for saying so, but having had the pleasure of meeting Taddy several times, I would like to assure you that, even if we had our occasional ups-and-downs, Taddy is a wonderful friend. Unlike others, he never makes me feel that he is American, or that I am "old europe". We can relate always as humans, men, gays, Japan-afficiadani, and more than anything else, as close friends. I love his sense of humor. All my admiration, gratitude, respect and friendship go to USguy/Taddy for his behind-the-scene, but all too real and hard work he contributes to keep our site alive and well. Hours and hours are what he spends, unrewarded, unappreciated, unpaid for, to keep us happy. I am personally infinitely grateful, and will always remain so, even if I eventually have to be kicked out of/off the site. (You know -all too well- how "precious" and Prima Donna-ish I can be at times...) Some of you were given your precious 'gold star' by JugyUSguy out of appreciation for your valuable contributions to the site. If so, all the more reason to return the favor with a few words of appreciation, and -if possible- a little more than that... Nothing is free in life! All I can say to Taddy and his Japanese-gentleman partner, Jguy, is a heartfelt "Thank You" for both helping me recover my 'normality' and, more than anything else, my zest for life after the death of my 30-year partner. Thank you so very much! Merci mille fois! 誠にどうも有難うございました! I love JguyUSguy. How about you? Please tell us why! Why not share our feelings of gratitude, or otherwise (no problem!) on this thread? KF |
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And he didn't bitch when I plugged my books!
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JguyUSguy has been very helpful to me in geing able to learn so much more of the Japanese culture, and the experiences of gay Japanese guys. Being a GWM living in Canada, this site has brought pleasure, tears, and understanding.
I wish I could contribute more, but I'm not very good at putting my thoughts to words for one to read. Thank you for at least letting me into the Japanese world to educate me a little bit everytime I log on. |
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I've been in love with Nihonjin for 26 years, but until I found this site I really didn't understand much! Thanks, USguy (Taddy-san, who I did meet once), and Jguy, who I would like to meet someday. This place is now an important part of my sanity as well!
Cheers, MM |
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How do you thank someone for appreciating your own obsession? By searching out pics and posting more! I hope I have given the guys something new to look at also - but well appreciate that my effort is miniscule in comparison to their hard graft. Kamisami da (!)(Just to keep the Korean flavour there - which I think is a worthy extension of theme)
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For me it was wanting to learn more about Japanese culture. so i came accross this. I have really come to look forword to the "whats new" e-mails and i have (i think) contributed to some threads. Contributing is kinda like therapy, i dont quite know how to say it - but its cool to be part of somehting. And jguyusguy is seen by so many people from all around the world. But yet so much more personal then some of the other online groups. I have laughed,cryed and been greatly moved by some of the threads with this site.
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Did you guys know we nearly folded about a year ago, and would have had we not received offers from new volunteers at a very crucial moment?
Sooooo.... Thanks should go out to Paulie, first of all, who performs crucial gate-keeping work on a daily basis. Next, Benji2 and Arashi2 for the very mindful care they've given to the community. Major thanks also to lahdeedah and Lars, and let's not forget to thank Ask Me, Miss Liza, Kazuhito fan, Kimball, mori, kaja, minwoo, Ikail, Elton, Kuang, Stanley, Kengoh, Tatsuro and Junfu for their volunteer efforts past and/or present! |
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Also note that financially we're now doing a little better than breaking even, month to month.
http://tinyurl.com/yqb8wc It will take a lifetime at this rate to pay back the past ten years of huge losses and huge investment of time building the community, but at least it's not getting worse. Yay. |
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It has been my pleasure to perform this service to our community. Through JguyUSguy I have made many friends and learned many things. I even met my boyfriend in the chat room so I owe a big debt to Taddy and his foolish obsession with keeping this community alive and vibrant.
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Today marks the TWELTH ANNIVERSARY of Jguy and Usguy togetherness!
We think of ten years as the first step, but in Japan, twelve marks the completion of the full cycle of the Oriental Zodiac signs. May Jguy and USguy, who set for all of us a great example of a successful long-term relationship, welcome together countless happy returns of the day! Happy 12th Anniversary! KF |
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Wow, those are life-sized glasses!
Isn't it our eleventh? Shit, I'd better get that right before S__n comes home. |
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I told you not to use foul language! Worrying again about bandwidth when you should be celebrating? Give him a big hug, and enjoy a wonderful dinner and night together! With best wishes on my own behalf and that of all the rest of us, the JguyUSguy gang! |
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11th, 12th...after 10 they are all a blur. Happy day, gentlemen.
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It was 11th... but who cares? Next year will unmistakenly be the 12th anniversary of Jguy and USguy's togetherness. As you can see, they are both so young and sooooo cute! Omedetoo-gozaimasu. KF |
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"JguyUSguy... what do YOU get from it?"
Porn, of course! Pics, clips and vids. We love, need, thrive upon them... Premium threads or chat-&-cam for the more adventurous... Then after our mouse has moved under our left palm, and our right-hand fingers have accomplished their duty, we can focus our attention on the "Discuss" threads, both "Salon" and "Advice" ones, exchanging opinions, learning from others, sharing our anxieties with our online friends, their "virtuality" making it so much easier to confide in them. My discovery of JguyUSguy, back in March 2004, virtually (no pun intended!) changed my life. It was such an eye-opener to interact with gay friends from all countries and walks of life after being in the closet all those years with only a couple of LTR lovers, the rest being those wonderful but short-lived, inconsequential acquaintances made in gay trains, toilets and places. More than anything else was the feeling of security that translated into a sense of self-confidence that I was OK as a human being, that my way of thinking was like others, and I could become -through KF and behind his mask- the man I was born, destined and wanted to be. I can truly say that "KF", in spite of all his shortcomings and superficiality, exists thanks to JguyUSguy. Today, without KF, my life instantly feels crippled. I lose a part of me, and am lost without it. Probably the truest part of me lives in, with and through JguyUSguy. For that, I am and will always remain deeply grateful to JguyUSguy. JguyUSguy opened my eyes to my reality, helped me understand and thereby accept myself, as I am. Unconditionally. I revive this thread not as an 'apple-polishing', 'boot-licking' tribute to our 'founding fathers', but rather a place for us all to share the ways JguyUSguy has helped us deal with our homosexuality, enjoy being gay, helped us cope with the religious, moral, parental, social, legal taboos still imposed upon us. I have numerous examples to give you, but I post too much, am everywhere on the site, and often reminded that many don't like me, so please take over! Tell us what good JguyUSguy has done for you since joining the site, even just yesterday, or even if it was nothing more than a cheap thrill here and there. How has JguyUSguy helped you or changed you? What is it you enjoy most about it? Let's share! It might even help our site -and community- become yet better than it already is. KF |
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Re. "Adolf Hitler", my first reaction was 'how come a guy with a name like that could possibly be accepted as a fellow JguyUSguy member?'.
Then I remembered this British "Royal Nazi sympathiser", among quite a few others in his family... Let's give our friend from Taiwan the benefit of the doubt. "AH" has not posted anything yet, so maybe he is not fully aware of the terrible weight the "Adolf Hitler" 'brand name' carries with it. Adolf Hitler was too homophobic for any gay to knowingly post under his name. If our friend does so, then we naturally have the moral obligation to join the JguyUSguy Resistance movement! KF |
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I do agree "Adolf" would probably benefit from changing his nick, but I can't help but think that his choice is quite comendable in some ways.
Now, before you all flame me into oblivion, let me play the devil's avocate for a minute: If someone calls himself "Adolf Hitler" because he does not understand the emotional implications that name has on people in certain groups of modern society this guy must have serious shortcommings where social antennaes is conserned - if he does understand, he must be suffering from the worst case of techno-masochism (in this case the desire for insulting e-mails and forum-posts) ever heard of. Either way it's a little impressive. I do understand that people can and WILL be offended by his choice of nickname, but I would like to draw the comparison to what Mel Brooks did in "The Producers" - depict Adolf Hitler as a "queer" musical-lover, obviously Mel Brooks is jewish. Here we have an Adolf Hitler depicted as a gay asian (two properties that the original Adolf Hitler alledgedly abhorred) in a net-community. Now, since "our" Adolf has yet to post anything public, it is difficult to say what his objectives are, and there is a chance that someone has registered a mock-member profile, maybe in a drunken stupor, who knows, but until he does, all we can do wait... and flame... ...and pray to all fallic deities that he changes his nick and sees the errors of his wicked ways... Anywho, what do I get from JguyUSguy? A chance to practice my english and hopefully to get in touch with a cute japanese guy who'll pound me into the futon with his big co--aaah, youknowwhatImean. |
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Jguyusguy is a really great page, offering much advice to someone new in Tokyo. But sorry I think it is less helpfull now. Let me explain. I am just odenary member and since Dec 2007 I just can see some discussions, but I am suddenly unable to see any profiles, cause I just get the page "be premium member etc". Before that it was more easy to use the page , but now? How can i replay to someone without knowing his email?
Maybe its because of needing more mebers, but hey I think I would have apreciated to get an information about it. Since I was adviced to take a free trial of premium mebership for 14 days witha little chance to get the facility back to see public profiles , I did a try. But hmm shoganai - didend work. So finaly I am more on other pages now. I evan registerd newly after beeing member for several years, but that was no help. Anyway have seen many changes on this page and maybe this is a new one but hmm - at least from my point of view not the one for the better. Just imagine your chatting in membersroom and suddenly can not see profiles anymore - but somehow have the feeling you had chat with that giuy before, than sometimes a short info - hey hes the Osakaguy etc, was helpfull, but is no longer possible. Ok- I agree if someone says this is a bit negative comment and its not really balanced with the positive aspekts of this page. But if you know it from a better point, you will miss that ^ ^ ok bye |
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oh just to add, and now evan normal memberschatroom is just for premium members? at least it says so, if I try to enter thet room.
=> finaly only the videoborad is really open to normal membership guys. ... |
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We appreciate long-time and loyal members and have tried to do right by everyone. By paying a premium fee - and it's only about 3 yen per day - you can get it all. If you feel that such a small fee is too much to ask, then the community must not matter so much to you.
So, my question is: Why not either A) go elsewhere, or B) just upgrade to premium? So simple. |
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I think it is 13 yen a day not 3, if the annual price cited is correct. Still 10 yen will not buy me a ticket to cross the JR Station, I can remember when it did. Can't even do it if I add the 3 yen.
The site has costs which those of us who use it have to foot, such is life. For my 13 yen a day I don't have to put up with flashing ads all the time, my name and e-mail address are not sold to scum bag scammers and Viagra ads, I get to see some of guys' pictures which is nice, I get to meet a lot of the guys who are usually nicer than their pictures, some of the threads are worth reading, a lot of the personal ads are. Actually it is a pretty good deal. And you get the bare minimum for free, as in nada. If you want the whole enchillada give up, spring for the loot, upgrade and join the club. |
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Ooops! I posted without doing the math. Tommy's probably got it right.
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Ueno Park in Tokyo is full of oddballs, drunkards, homeless, and the ubiquitous Iranian peddlers of forged telephone cards and illegal drugs. Entrance is free.
Across town, you have Shinjuku Gyoen that charges 200 yen for admission. The difference is obvious. Visitors behave, are respectful of others and of the park itself. The privacy issue was not such a big deal for members of JguyUSguy in the 'good old days', but today it is. "Premium" status provides protection from prying eyes, and the freedom to post whatever we want with complete peace of mind. We used to think of "JguyUSguy" as a Ueno Park-like 'cocktail party' open to all, but today it is a Shinjuku Gyoen-style 'private party' protected from unpleasant gate-crashers. Much nicer, and definitely worth the small monetary contribution. KF |
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I'm still perplexed by jens' complaint.
Kazuhito fan, Tommy, my partner, I, and many others care about the community and value it. So, we have all given something. So many of us have put in tons of effort, time and money, and we're glad. Because we value this. Now, apparently jens values access to profiles to find members' contact emails and access to all chat rooms. He seems to value that very much. He knows that $36 will get him complete access for an entire year, and yet he seems uninterested in paying his way. But if he's not interested enough to pay 13 yen/day, then maybe this is not important to him. But if it's not important, then why complain? |
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To: Ye editors,
Would not get too excited, using the unit of value from the college days of a mis-spent youth, the price of full membership is less than 1/2 a six pack a month for the cheap brands that I drink. Am I really looking to get laid by a guy who is too tight or too broke to afford that? That's the down and dirty, to the point Tommy analysis. |
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Hi - sorry if you feel insulted or got angry. That was not my intention at all.
And no I had not send money to support the comunity recently - just did it at the first time you raised money, and the amound was little less than a two years membership. So counting that, time is long run out. I recived the following mail after asking about the acsessproblem in early January (5th) "Hi Jens, Sorry for taking a few days to get back to you. We've looked into your profile and there certainly shouldn't be any block against you seeing other members' profiles. If it's a continuing problem, would you mind trying the free trial of the premium membership? Perhaps just switching on and off (once the trial expires) some of the settings might solve the problem." This mail may be half way able to explain, how it came to my not so wise mailing from upper here, when I found out that it again doesent work. But maybe I missed to read a mail informing normal members about the change in the policy of open and closed areas for normal members, or just did not searched such an information more carefull. Anyway, thanks for your efforts you had spend on this homepage, you did a good job- please continue with it for the help to many guys. I wish good luck for its futur. best regards bye |
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Jens, we know you've been using the site for years.
Some non-premium members get access to profiles, others don't. The algorithm we've set up has to do with a whole range of factors having to do with loyalty, participation and a bunch of other things. Hard to explain. But here are two facts I can explain:
However, in your case, I want to help. So, you have a gold star! (We call it "earned premium membership.") Have fun. |
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I have not seen an Iranian selling telephone cards or drugs in the park since 1998. You need to dump this stupid 10 year old steriotype and get clued into what is going on now. |
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...........a single moment to enjoy my self, relax and relieve the stress of the day....and keep hoping for more.....
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